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Let's talk English.
โพสต์เมื่อ: 08:36 วันที่ 10 มี.ค. 2548         ชมแล้ว: 31,318 ตอบแล้ว: 301
What is a good way to learn English?
Repeat words and remember meanings?
Surely, this has not got us far. (ไม่มีผลเท่าไร)

Let us talk English. You talk to me in English. I talk to you in English (and Thai, if I feel that I am not with you. ถ้าฉันคิดว่า ตามไม่ทัน หรือไม่เข้าใจ) Together, we learn English. OK?

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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 34 8 เม.ย. 2548 (11:10)
Yeah? You sounded alright -- I bet you snap back at them (farangs) now - without even thinking about Thai words.

Language is not just words and grammar rules - but FEELINGS and EMOTIONS and GESTURES (use whole hands please not just one middle finger) and so on.

Your face, your eyes, your voice and all your body signs come together in one expression. Powerful is the REAL language - I cannot really WRITE about this in words alone.

I would be glad to have you on MY SIDE (as a friend) anytime - but I would be a tat (a bit) scared to make you crossed (make you angry). I think I see the fire in your eyes.

Peace khun earl - please. Peace.
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 35 13 เม.ย. 2548 (11:43)
Happy New Year to ALL.

I wish I could be more cheerful and celebrate Songkarn in traditional way. I do miss my family and friends.

But the way Thailand is chasing Sciences and Technologies - by spending money (out of the country) for a lot EXHIBITION centres and TOYS - somehow fills me with an uneasy feeling. Are we playing other countries\' games? You know by using their toys we are just following them.

What we really want is to think of the FUTURE in 20-30 years time. Paint the pictures of what we would be. Make sure we have good agreement on the pictures. Then we would go ALL OUT (try our best with whatever we have) to make our dream come true.

We are different people (wearing suits and ties - just not the way most of us are), we have different dreams - we have our way of life. Why? Why should we FOLLOW their foot steps? Somehow, it just does not fit (is not right) to do this when we have other options and other ways of achieving our dreams.

I put a little fun article in Sudipan - it\'s called ฝัน ของไทย - นอนกันเถิด. The point I really want to say is that there are a lot of less POPULAR areas of technologies that we can go into. There are matters that as a society we all expect to see - SAFETY, NATURE SPACE, GAMES and INTELLECTUAL ENDEAVOURS, HEALTH, CULTURE and SMILES. All these things sell well to foreigners and they come en mass (lots and lots) - some even buy our land and life style. Yet, all these things are TOO EXPENSIVE for Thais. So are fruits and vegetables and many other things - they have become EXPORT items and leave our land. ALL of them are leaving our land.

Now - let us dream of the future. Let us put forth the vision (for the GOVERNMENT and lot of people cannot do do that) for the people to choose. Let us show the world we can go foreward by ourselves, We are smart enough to figure out our way. We do not have have to follow the path they themselves have ABANDONED.

Let us first make peace among ourselves and share our world - our dreams.
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 36 14 เม.ย. 2548 (14:47)
hello! everyone

now i have some problem.

if i have to say anything in front of the class, i shake always Though i really can speak it very well
how shall i do
T_T
yumi (IP:210.86.131.153,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 37 15 เม.ย. 2548 (04:48)
Yeah, I used to have that problem too.

People suggested that I should join - the Toast Master Club - (they are out there in some English speaking countries - they help people to speak in public). But I did not go because I lived (still live) far (60 km) from town.

I trained myself by writing a short speech. Then I practiced my speech in front of a mirror - alone. I looked how my face look, how my hands and body move ... I saw how my hair stood up!

I asked friends to listen to my speech (they had a few giggles). But I managed to keep calm and looked at them rather than my hands and feet. (Do you do that too?)

On my first talk - I had to take many deep breaths and try to keep calm. A friend came over and gave me a big hug. And that was it. I knew then I was going to talk to friends. I went out and stood in front of 200 people. I looked for familiar faces - I decided that I was going to talk to them - my friends. I started \'Hello, ... this is my first public talk.\' ...

For 45 minutes I talked. I walked left, right, all over the place. I kept looking for friends for a while. Before I saw other smiling faces - I had more friends in there!

That was how I started. I can go out there and say things now. But mind you - I still have butterflies in my tummy.
สร (IP:144.134.69.209,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 38 24 เม.ย. 2548 (14:48)
I try to speak English but maybe i think not quickly to speak with farang & don\'t understand sometimes.I\' m work at ji-net support call center.i called with farangs they speak quickly.I search form google and i meet your web.this is good for me to Speak english Please advise about english for me.thank you.
pon.siri@thaimail.com (IP:203.147.0.10,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 39 25 เม.ย. 2548 (08:34)
Dear pon.siri,

I am glad you called in. You have taken a BIG step forward. You have come out and looked what you can do to use English better. I congratulate you for your courage.

I think you are very good with -book- English. You need more -talk- English. I could not really help you - in here there is only -writing-.

Take another step please to talk with farangs more often and longer -every chance you have!

If you could try something like:
Please say again - I missed what you said.
I am sorry I did not understand what you mean.
Forgive me - I could not catch you.

Or you could try to be BOLD and say something like:
So you mean ...such and such... Is that correct?
That sounds funny - Say it again please.

I think learning some ICE BREAKERS (to start a conversation) would also help. Like:

I know YOU! You are ...a famous movie star... - this often brings a smile and good long talk.

Can you tell me please how to get to ...a famous place...? - this makes them puzzled but you will get a conversation.

Would you mind if I try my English on you? - a straight and honest way works well every time

Good luck. And do come back to tell us how you go - OK?
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 40 25 เม.ย. 2548 (13:39)
How do you do, Khun Sorn?

This is the first time for me to post my comments in website. I\'m very impressed by your words. You seem to be an academic staff or a teacher, right? I normally just read what people think and say. After reading this, i think that this\'s very useful and inspire me to learn and practise more about English; writing, reading, listening, speaking, as well. I just want to have better english skills. Why? In the past, i just want to be good at english because i just want to be able to communicate with foreign people and get good job in big farang\'s company. But after reading your comments of to be aware of being as slaves of westerner\'s technologies,i realize more than as usual in this changing world.

Thanks for giving me the chance to say and wake me up from the world i see before naka.

P/S: please don\'t mind any mistakes of mine naka.
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 41 25 เม.ย. 2548 (18:11)
Dear Khun Ha-Moo;

First, I would like to welcome you into this circle of friends.
Second, I have my secret...shhhhhh... if you can keep a secret or two I will tell you what I am - or rather what I do for living. <<<...>>> shhhhhh. Please, REMEMBER you promised. ==_v_==

You promised to use more English - did I hear that right?
Use it as a tool - but a valuable tool please.

People are (farangs or not) much the same inside. There are good people and there are bad people. More often than not many farangs have changed and become very good friends. Please keep a smiling face when you talk to them - only after you are sure that they are BAD then you SMIRK (smile with a blame) at them. :-q

On your PS - I will not pick on your mistakes, if you do not pick on mine. Is that OK?

I would really love to see you back here again - drop a line please.
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 42 26 เม.ย. 2548 (17:16)
hi สร i have read though your webboard and i feel that this URL would be a very good place for study and learning english. i have not much time for now. So i think to come by here again tomorrow and i like to chat you sometimes too. IF you do not mind.
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thank
MIKaN
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 43 27 เม.ย. 2548 (07:08)
Dear Mikan,

You are absolutely welcome. I am here to chat and to learn. Just like you, I learn what I can when I can.

Mind you - I talk funny. I do not like to talk about mistakes - (we all make mistakes, and the mistakes we make are our responsibility to learn and to correct).

I may talk about misunderstanding sometimes - again this is not my favourite topic.

But I like sharing experiences, viewpoints and humours in English. (It is a pity, we cannot share a drink or a meal too. But who knows what the future holds for us.)

It is my intention to encourage a view of English - not as a sacred (holy) LANGUAGE, but as a good TOOL to be used to understand what some farangs are talking about and how to talk back at them farangs.

I also like to see we export some software products to the world - to do that we need to package them in English.

As for agricultural exports my view is we are sending away LIFE MATERIALS (the matters we need to keep us alive) in exchange of HAZARDOUS MATERIALS (the matters they say we need but in fact the matters are KILLING us).

So you see - though I will talk about many things. I will often talk about -- how we live in society with nature. You are now warned!
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 44 28 เม.ย. 2548 (03:01)
hi
mazda_rm@hotmail.com (IP:212.138.47.13,10.0.0.34, 212.33.175.103,212.33.190)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 45 28 เม.ย. 2548 (16:36)
Dear all.
and To related person who interesting in.

This theme is very interesting so much. I\'m one who have lots of problem to speak and listen. Now i\'m working in the global company where I always have to use english language.
Before I started in this company,I had studied english language in many institute. I guess that it\'s enough for me to work. Anyway, that\'s still not enough yet. I also have plan to learn in Master Degree in my interested field in nearly future.
Therefore, I applied to the TOEFL Caurse for this matter. Yes, That\'s right. Now, I\'m studying in TOEFL Program. I really hope to be pleased with the satisfied scores.

Working and Learning together are not easy to me.
Anyway,I do by best for this deal.
Any inquiry recommen or suggestion for TOEFL or this matter,please e-mail or let\'s me know.

Glad to release my opinion to all of you.

PS>> When you do the politness to someone, Not because they are Gentleman or Ladies, But because YOU ARE.
Don\'t Sweat your critics, Just do our best.

^ ^

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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 46 29 เม.ย. 2548 (02:47)
Welcome Kas_nova:kas_molmu, hi and mazda_rm

I hope you would continue to help us along.

I have no experience with TOEFL program. I do not know what you do in that course. In fact, I do not know what lots of English courses are about. I do know that reading and writing can help.

But talking is where you have to shoot from your hip (to do quickly - no time to prepare). It is talking - learning to say things AUTOMATICALLY - that we are about.

I prefer and use simple words. I like short simple sentences. I try to think about the grammar stuff at the same time. You know, we have to think about the male/female, the one/many, the tense (past/now/future) ... as we talk.

If you can swim or ride a bicycle - you can see what I mean - you do not tell yourself what to do - bit by bit. You just do it.

Thanks for the PS: May I rewrite it?

When you show politeness to someone;
Not because they are Gentleman or Ladies;
But because YOU ARE.

ps. my post #43 - in exchange of - sounds terribly it should be - in exchange for -. Do you agree?
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 47 29 เม.ย. 2548 (10:30)
Hi all.

I\'m also not the native speaker or the grammarian.So, I can not tell you whether it is coorect grammar or not.

Anyway, Thank you for any comments you reply. I really agree and feel happiness to join in the same interesing group.

There are many English Programs for person who interested in. For the example,whenever you want to study abroad, whenever you hope to get the scolarship from some government institutes.
TOEFL is the famous program which acceptable and agreement for many ccountry such as America, Western Countries.
And more than this I had heard are IELTS,TOEIC, GMAT, etc.

So, if you are interesting in,you have to prepare beforehand.

I hope this will be the advantage information for you.

PS>> Under the postive thinking "Every problems is always has a Solution"
On the contrary way, Under the negative thinking,
just say "Every Solution is always face with problems\'\'

Which one you are? ^ ^
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 48 30 เม.ย. 2548 (06:45)
วันนี้เห็น ปลาตายนอนเป็นแผงบนถาด
ตัวหนึ่งถูกกรีดท้องเปิดให้เห็นไข่หลายพันเม็ดในสองถุง
วูบเข้าในใจ เราไม่เพียงแต่ กินปลา
เรากินทั้งครอบครัวของปลา เรากินทั้งอนาคต ของปลา ของเรา ของโลก
ปีละครั้ง ที่ปลาจะหาที่วางไข่ ตามชายฝั่ง ชายเลน
ปลาทำตามบทบาท สร้างความสมบรูณ์ให้โลก
ปีละครั้ง ปีละเดือน สองเดือน เราจะยั้งไม่ได้?
ยั้งใจ ยั้งการจับกิน แม่ปลามีไข่
ยั้งการขัดขวาง งานสร้างความสมบรูณ์ สร้างอนาคต?

Dead fish, I saw today, lying, lining a tray
One with belly cut open to display - two sacks of thousands of roes
"We eat, not only flesh of fish"; my heart sank in woes
"We eat their family, their future - our future and our world"
Once a year, fish come to shallow and muddy shores, to spawn
Fish do their natural roles - to replenish the world, over, since Dawn
Once a year, a month or two each year, can we refrain?
Our desire; from catching and eating roeful mother fish.
Can we refrain from obstructing restoration and future generation?

I tried to get DOF (Department of Fisheries) to explain why we allow fish full of roes on sale in the market especially in SPAWNING SEASON - they have INCORRECT email address.

If you think we should stop catching mother fish - please tell your friends, email them, phone or SMS, ... - just say "Stop Killing Mother Fish."
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 49 30 เม.ย. 2548 (10:07)
\'\' Stop killing mother fish.\'\' !!

That\'s sound interesting.I be surprised when I red this article, I mean when I red your comment post on 48

I really suspect about you.
Hey, SORN what\'s you working for? Are you work in something like the Greenpeace or the foundation ?

You are seam to be bizarre man, Are not you? ^ ^

HahA, And one more question. Are you in adulthood age,or just young guy?

I don\'t mind to get your answer. It\'s just my surprise.
Especially,when I see time you post in, That\'s sound you aren\'t worker.
Today, I will be the detective.
HahA

PS>> MOTTO Today
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent

See you guys
Any request or ask me to help, please don\'t hesitate to tell me.
Kas_nova. (IP:203.146.139.113,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 50 30 เม.ย. 2548 (12:20)
I seriously mean -- STOP KILLING MOTHER FISH --.

I tried to ask the Department of Fisheries - why they allow fish stocks to be DECIMATED (wiped out or become extinct - words cannot carry the feeling of loss anymore).

Our forests were cleared, turned into supermarkets and carparks - and we stood by and watched. Our water was poinsoned, rivers turned into sewerage drains - and yet we stood by and watched. We are really a bunch of bystanders and spectatotors!

It is NOT our business - we say. It is TOO BIG for us to do - we say. It is our WORLD - we agree. It is WHERE we live - we know. People went to wars for less worthy causes. The fish stocks are OURS, we must now protect them for the future - for our kids.

Now can we stand up and say to our friends and neighbours, seriously today to
-- STOP KILLING MOTHER FISH --?

(It matters little, who I am, but what I am for. I come but from dirt of this earth and dirt I will return - a saying which I cannot recall in full - I believe this is an Aborigines dream.)
สร (IP:144.134.69.33,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 51 1 พ.ค. 2548 (22:50)
Wow...that\'s really interesting for me.
And I really agree with the sentence which said that Our water was poinsoned, rivers turned into sewerage drains - and yet we stood by and watched.
That\'s what I think.As I have seen from another countries in EU,such as Germany,Switzerland,Austria.
The water their(rivers and lakes) are very very clean,not like rivers in Thai,we don\'t even wanna touch the water from those. *sigh*

Ps.I do apologize if my English is bad and there\'re a lot of wrong grammar. m(_ _)m I\'m just a 16 years old girl who wanna practise English.ok? ^^
Foei [me_draco@hotmail.com] (IP:203.188.7.74,,)

ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 52 2 พ.ค. 2548 (11:33)
Thank you Foei and welcome, to this topic and my world.
You are very good at English. Would you show us how we can be as good as you? Would you talk?

I did not set out (intend) to include my view and belief - all I had in mind was to see if we could all look at English as a TOOL to be used for whatsoever we like. English is not our master. Neither is Technology nor Democracy nor ...

We long for (wish for) a utopia (a happy place) among the stars in unknown space. I think we will not be welcome in the galactic society - why just one look at our earth and the mess we are making and leaving around. I think we will not qualify (pass the test) on smart beings. We see are killing most things that have served us well for countless generations. We are killing BIRDS and BEES and many lifeforms that have been laying GOLDEN eggs for us for FREE. We are looking up to GLOBAL CORPORATIONS for fixes (correction) for our problems (yes they do love our stupidity and they do hate our problems - I dare you to name 100 corporations - though I doubt that you would settle down (stop) at 100 - Many of us can write down 500 fortune companies and many of us can draw a line to the rubbish and mess they are spreading out in our world. I known some of these are known to have - hi-tech - facilities, which means - cleaner inside a building -.
Do they keep they garbage inside their facilities?

Do you know there are many man-made hills appearing here and there in Europe and America? These hills go some 30-50 m underground with plastic lining and they go up to 30 m aboveground. These hills cover 25-200 Rai, with (bright green and yellow) plastic pipes coming off the hills. Inside these hills they keep garbage. The pipes are for gases like methane and formaldehyde - known as good soil sterilant (they kill soil!) to escape or to go into homes as cooking gas (they also kill people).

In only 5 years or less (as soon as our infrastructural industries get to work at 50% capacity or more) we will have these hills to stand by and watch.

Well if we are lucky enough we might escape to the coastal areas (near the seas) - but we will not the land of plenty any more if we do not --STOP KILLING MOTHER FISH --.
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ความเห็นเพิ่มเติมที่ 53 3 พ.ค. 2548 (01:51)
hi everyone!!
i doubt!! it\'s about "What\'s up?" again
what am i supposed to answer when someone ask me
" What\'s up? " and " what\'ve you been up to?"
thank you =)
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